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Thread: a new truck possibility
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TimPA136
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posted June 09, 2012 01:17 PM |
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a new truck possibility
Submitted by Berny Herrera on Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 10:24pm
SOURCE: JIJI PRESS
Tokyo, June 5 (Jiji Press) --Mazda Motor Corp. will launch next year an electric vehicle that will run on power generated by a rotary engine, company officials said Tuesday.
The power generator-equipped electric vehicle will be leased to government ministries and agencies, they said.
My take on this is the low end stump pulling power of an electric motor that would fulfill the requirements of a typical work pick up and still have an efficient rotary to run at its optimun range or RPM. Seal up the pick up bed so nothing leaks thru to the batteries underside, add a skid plate for battery protection.
Let me know when one is states side and I will test one and add my critique.
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kansei
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posted June 19, 2012 05:15 AM |
 Edited By: kansei on 19 Jun 2012 05:16 |
Haven't heard anything about a pickup yet...
The rumors I've heard are that it will be a new sedan/coupe platform similar in appearance to the Shinari concept, with a single rotor range extender to test the viability of an EV option on the 6 replacement.
Think poor man's Fisker Karma.
Neal.
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Brad
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posted June 21, 2012 10:34 AM |
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After owning a remote controlled electric motor powered truck for the last few months I'm skeptical about how long an electric motor will last when hauling loads. Been through 3 stock motors and a 4th Made in China one lasted a whole 10 minutes!
I think Mazda is moving away from the rotary overall. Sure they can use it as a 'range extender' but I wouldn't expect it to be the primary power plant in anything anytime soon. They haven't had a reliable rotor motor car in the US since the FC in 1991.
In auto racing Mazda just rolled out their new customer motor program last weekend. It's a 4 cylinder 2.2L Diesel twin turbo with their Skyactive marketing label on it.
So that's the direction they're heading.
Brad
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Klaus45
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posted June 22, 2012 10:46 AM |
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Apples vs. Oranges
Different kind of electric motor, entirely. Automotive application is a high-torque, 'stepped' design setup for speed control, etc. The other thing is a cheap toy.
My friend in the know suggests you yard out the motor from an old printer -- the one that makes the carriage go back and forth -- and adapt it to your RC car, if you want a motor that'll last. Those used a stepped design...
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TimPA136
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posted June 23, 2012 09:38 PM |
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Haven't heard anything about a pickup yet...
The rumors I've heard are that it will be a new sedan/coupe platform similar in appearance to the Shinari concept
Think poor man's Fisker Karma.
Neal.
I think I saw that concept at the LA auto show and wouldn't that be wild.
TimPA136
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TimPA136
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posted July 04, 2012 01:46 PM |
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Haven't heard anything about a pickup yet...
similar in appearance to the Shinari concept, with a single rotor range extender to test the viability of an EV option on the 6 replacement.
Think poor man's Fisker Karma.
Neal
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Brad
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posted July 19, 2012 09:50 AM |
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Different kind of electric motor, entirely. Automotive application is a high-torque, 'stepped' design setup for speed control, etc. The other thing is a cheap toy.
My friend in the know suggests you yard out the motor from an old printer -- the one that makes the carriage go back and forth -- and adapt it to your RC car, if you want a motor that'll last. Those used a stepped design...
Boy that's old school, I got a castle creations brushless 1410. It does wheelies on demand and doesn't suck dirt in. Maintenance free.
Murphy struck again and my tire inflator compressor broke, battery died and motor is tired & rattles. Turns out it uses a cheapo 540 motor made in china too. I have another project for the compressor internals and ordered a Titan 12T motor for $20 to hot rod the compressor and make more PSI.
I think hybrids are questionable as the entry cost is high the common Joe can't afford it but can get a Mazda2 for cheap that gets great mileage. And there are so many more things to break like we needed more driveline and electrical failures. At least they burn gas as ethanol is turning out to be a joke, costs more $ and pollutants to produce than the end product is worth.
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Klaus45
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posted July 19, 2012 11:47 AM |
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Well... there's better and worse ways of doing just about anything. Small-scale, decentralized Ethanol production from organic waste/spoiled crops, etc. is far more efficient and desirable than the current, subsidized factory-farmed GMO corn industrial method, for example.
Likewise, there are successful electric hybrids -- Isn't the world's largest truck, the Terex Titan, a diesel-electric?
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tom93r1
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posted August 08, 2012 09:10 PM |
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Diesel electric train, probably the best known hybrid around and they seem fairly reliable.
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Brad
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posted August 09, 2012 09:54 AM |
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My friend's Honda hybrid went through:
3 hybrid batteries
2 alternators
2 transmissions
1 electric motor
When the lease was up he returned it and got a Corolla S. Said the rolla is the best car he ever had.
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TimPA136
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posted August 09, 2012 08:54 PM |
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Likewise, there are successful electric hybrids -- Isn't the world's largest truck, the Terex Titan, a diesel-electric?
Yes there are some dump trucks for copper mines etc. that have to be disassembled for transport and assembled on the job and I think they are also diesel-electric with a combination of hydralic pump of some sort.
shout out to Tom
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tom93r1
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posted August 10, 2012 09:17 PM |
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Brad, anybody who says the corolla S is the best car they ever had cannot be trusted about anything car related. I absolutely cannot stand driving my girlfriends Corolla S, but maybe my performance standards for daily drivers are a little high.
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Brad
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posted August 10, 2012 11:00 PM |
Edited By: Brad on 10 Aug 2012 23:10
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Tom, you don't know what cars he's had!
As far as reliability and time out of the shop goes, that rolla is superior to the hybrid. He's not looking for performance at all, he drives in the field 60-250 miles per day and wants it to go on the cheap.
He's not drag racing Camaros up the freeway onramp getting up to 100mph like a green rotortruck does. ;-)
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